tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755035051021414780.post3439912220587077158..comments2023-11-17T03:55:40.736-05:00Comments on Ink Spots: Military Police actually aren't like civilian policeLilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373158801523577733noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755035051021414780.post-74489479034380247632018-12-11T04:55:23.945-05:002018-12-11T04:55:23.945-05:00Thanks for the information.
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There have been a few exceptions, such as when my former civilian police chief (retired MP O-6) returned to active duty in order to serve as senior advisor to the Baghdad Police College...but folks like that are few and far between. The other approach to building Iraq's/Afghanistan's civilian policing capacity, the ubiquitous Dyncorp (and others) police training contractors, have by most accounts also failed to get the job done. None of my friends and colleagues who worked for these organizations, or the now-defunct International Police Training Mission of Kosovo/East Timor vintage, had anything positive to say about their effectiveness.<br />In my opinion, it's unrealistic to even attempt to replicate US policing strategy/tactics/culture in places still in upheaval. Heck, it's tough enough to successfully employ community policing in most US communities!"The Fighting Leprechaun"https://www.blogger.com/profile/06179138662850961742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755035051021414780.post-70043878717663643272012-07-27T13:04:52.166-04:002012-07-27T13:04:52.166-04:00Maybe interesting: in France, there is the Nationa...Maybe interesting: in France, there is the National Gendarmerie. A branch of the French Armed Forces, in charge of public safety, with police duties among the civilian populationFdeStVictorhttp://mars-attaque.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755035051021414780.post-69119767069199912512012-07-27T12:35:03.836-04:002012-07-27T12:35:03.836-04:00Thanks for bringing this issue up. I saw the arti...Thanks for bringing this issue up. I saw the article in the Washington Post about these Marine units. It seems to be a recurring theme. As the wars wind down and budget cuts loom everyone is looking for ways to stand out and show capabilities. One problem here is that as individual services continue to develop stand alone capabilities like this, joint operations may suffer.<br /><br />The AF has also pursued standalone, multi-role security/policing units. Most notably is the development of the 820th (I should say re-activation) Security Forces Group. Much like the Marine Corps experience the need for this capability continues to raise its head but the services seem reluctant to sustain them through times of peace. The 820th has three line squadrons, a support squadron and a deployable group HQ. Their full reactivation just before 9/11 was (unfortunately) good timing. I fear that without the events of the last decade they would not have survived. These capabilities can not be created over night.<br /><br />For an example of a recent deployment by the 820th check out this story on the squadron that deployed to Haiti following the 2010 earthquake. http://www.thekabulcable.com/?p=458 <br />Cheers<br />TyTyrell Mayfieldhttp://www.thekabulcable.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755035051021414780.post-36803595154587648322012-07-25T10:15:21.017-04:002012-07-25T10:15:21.017-04:00You know, MK, this topic of cataloging the civilia...You know, MK, this topic of cataloging the civilian jobs of Guardsmen comes up often. On it's face it's not a bad idea, but there are some practical and legal problems with it. Or I should say, I've heard there are some legal problems with it (activating soldiers for something outside of what they do for DoD, etc). <br /><br />Practically speaking, it would be difficult to cobble units together from across the country based on the fact that individuals have police backgrounds. I don't know that you can activate these guys long enough to turn them into an actual military organization in the sense we all understand that to mean. A number of law enforcement organizations also oppose the idea because in some cases it could decimate local police forces, rendering them ineffective. <br /><br />There's more to it, but those are the highlights of the arguments I've heard against the idea.Jason Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18335313679058470722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755035051021414780.post-49822107238468584952012-07-24T09:31:50.158-04:002012-07-24T09:31:50.158-04:00This issue just won't go away. Funny thing is,...This issue just won't go away. Funny thing is, at the COIN conference a couple months back, it was an Army MP who was emphasizing that MPs are not trained to do expeditionary civilian policing (or whatever we're calling it these days). Not in a 'we don't want this to be our job' way, but rather a recognition that they aren't trained for it.<br /><br />As you say - MPs are great. They're just not the same as civilian cops.<br /><br />It does beg the question though, whether it would be possible to do an inventory of the professions of reservists, identify personnel who are cops in their civilian life, and deploy them with that purpose in mind when/where appropriate. I know this was being looked at re the USMCR, but not sure it went anywhere.MKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09101668944584403261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755035051021414780.post-80150571397358297482012-07-24T00:30:37.233-04:002012-07-24T00:30:37.233-04:00(Also, if you can identify the little piece of USM...<em>(Also, if you can identify the little piece of USMC doctrine I helped write on this topic, I'll buy you a drink or something - but not those of you who I told about it.)</em><br /><br />Ha! I'm curious about this....Madhuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198241208223203425noreply@blogger.com